top of page

Poetry Worth Hearing: Episode 45

kathleenmcphilemy8
11 minutes ago
14 min read

This episode, which you can find on You Tube or Audible podcasts or at https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/7IR7ltf5pxOs84DTJh17b7/episode/0AjRr7W2n7TY4clCI2OXE3/wizard features an interview and reading from Mary Jean Chan. The prompt for the episode was 'wealth' which could be interpreted as widely as poets chose. I was slightly surprised by how many poets found wealth in the worlds of nature, relationsips and family and how few took on capitalism, bankers financial oligarchs etc. Perhaps against forces which often seem overwhelming, we need to assert our private values. Included are poems by Michael Klimeš, Ebtisam Elghblawi, Sara Stegen, Kate Venables, Kate Young, Trish Broomfield, Steve Xerri, Terry Jones, Helen Overell and John Greening.



My first encounter with the work of Mary Jean Chan was when they published their pamphlet, a hurry of english, with ignitionpress. Since then they have published two full collections and we look forward to the third next year. Their debut collection Flèche (Faber, 2019), won the Costa Poetry Award. Bright Fear(Faber, 2023), their second book, was shortlisted for the Forward Prize for Best Collection and the Dylan Thomas Prize. Chan co-edited 100 Queer Poems (Vintage, 2022) and is Departmental Lecturer in Poetry on the MSt in Creative Writing at the University of Oxford. Chan's forthcoming collection, Movement's Measure, will be published by Faber in June 2027.




Michael Klimeš


Flat 8 Mount View Birthday

 

It is the circle of life my brother says

as Elan plays with Lego on the rug

we played on when we were three

and had no sense of the urgency:

get stuff done adulthood pushes us too,

but for now I just want to absorb the joy –

How Babi and Děda see us bond from a picture

they stand in from the Highlands

when they were still in our time

before theirs ended, and how we love them

by living fully making memories in their soon-to-be cleaned out flat

by eating Nando’s (Babi’s favourite), and drinking to good health,

how we’re here for mum’s birthday

and comfort each other in grief –

This is the wealth of our family.

 

 

Michael Klimeš is a financial journalist based in London. He has been published in Alchemy Spoon, London Grip, Poetry Worth Hearing, Wildfire Words, One Hand Clapping Magazine and Iota. His pamphlet Love Carries the Future was shortlisted in the Full House Literary Magazine Digital Chapbook 2023 competition and longlisted in the Black Cat Poetry Press pamphlet competition 2024 and Alchemy Spoon Pamphlet Competition 2022.





Ebtisam Elghblawi



   Wealth of imagination of home

 

 

                         What is home like,

 

 

              a porcelain woman sculpture, still standing,

                  tall, elevated, dancing alone,

               haunting silence, and holding stillness

                    from another space, in transit time.

 

 

                  She sits where I sit on my red sofa,

                              in my kitchen

 

 

             As if she remembers other spaces, other places,

 

                 other hands that once placed her carefully,

                              fondly.

 

 

             cats drift through the space like soft,

                         shifting thoughts,

 

               some by the door, some on the window shelf

 

             watching roses spilling over, alluring scent

                           of rosemary.

 

 

                  a squirrel comes to my doorstep,

                           trustingly,

 

                taking food from my hand without fear,

                              joyfully

 

             like the world briefly agrees to be kind

                            and serene.

 

 

               Watching the clouds under the bright,

                         spraying sun,

 

                    transform and mutate

 

 

              Shimmering and illuminating the white wall,

                    in the infinite, dimly lit,

              as to rewrite my own history, melody

                 and symphony, a new chapter of

                       being alive and thriving.

 

 

               A gentle breeze blows and lifts my hair

                    through open, delightful moments,

 

 

                    A moment before the poem

                         of home was born

 

 

                She watches all of that without moving,

                   in complete silence, stillness,

                             and calmness,

 

                       yet somehow,

                     she belongs to it all

 

 

                  and that is how home becomes

 



Wealth of the body



Ugh, my body took it all,



Ugh, my body is learning to cope.



My body is stitching, knitting, and braiding

the broken pieces and unpleasantness

all together in a floating

reassembled mesh,



Beneath the resounding cascade of the running red

water of life, which burst out immeasurably, harshly,

and unexpectedly on a cold, clear December day before

Christmas, by a senseless, ruthless cruelty.

A pure devilment.



The body was unplanted; the bone split,

undressed the flesh, and unleashed a flood

of blood by a hard spike.



The body is weaving the dismissed burden

into braids of life, gliding up

and pulling its unhealed pieces upright

with grace.



To sweep off

woeful sinister things.



Alike dissolving.



I am proud of my body

for how it still battles to adjust

and stand firm.



I am proud of how much it has

achieved and accomplished

right now.



Small things are small wins,

no matter the struggles, obstacles,

and hurdles.



My body took it all, and yet

it is nurturing, rebuilding, renewing,

and re-emerging itself with

every passing day.



And I woe and marvel at how my body recalls

its way back to life, darning light

through every fracture and broken pieces

sustained in its quietest moments

of wisdom.



The moment before a poem

of wonder was born.




Ugh, my body took it all,



Ugh, my body is learning to cope.



My body is stitching, knitting, and braiding

the broken pieces and unpleasantness

all together in a floating

reassembled mesh,



Beneath the resounding cascade of the running red

water of life, which burst out immeasurably, harshly,

and unexpectedly on a cold, clear December day before

Christmas, by a senseless, ruthless cruelty.

A pure devilment.



The body was unplanted; the bone split,

undressed the flesh, and unleashed a flood

of blood by a hard spike.



The body is weaving the dismissed burden

into braids of life, gliding up

and pulling its unhealed pieces upright

with grace.



To sweep off

woeful sinister things.



Alike dissolving.



I am proud of my body

for how it still battles to adjust

and stand firm.



I am proud of how much it has

achieved and accomplished

right now.



Small things are small wins,

no matter the struggles, obstacles,

and hurdles.



My body took it all, and yet

it is nurturing, rebuilding, renewing,

and re-emerging itself with

every passing day.



And I woe and marvel at how my body recalls

its way back to life, darning light

through every fracture and broken pieces

sustained in its quietest moments

of wisdom.



The moment before a poem

of wonder was born. 



Ebtisam Elghblawi

 

Writing to see light in darkness. Her poems are inspired by the dark chapter she was thrust into when an e-bike rider at force hit her from behind while she was walking on the footpath. The vigorous strike and fall caused her multiple fractures and lifelong injuries, which affect and impact her daily. The inspiration for these poems is how the world can suddenly, at a glance, look different based on changing circumstances and events, not in her hands, but by a demon’s ill act. Alongside being a dermatologist, Ebtisam always loved painting and writing poetry. Those two pieces were selected in a competition to be read live at National Poetry Day and at the Wirral Poetry Festival in 2026, consecutively.

 

 



Sara Stegen


Slow richness

 

My days have slowed

bed – kitchen – walk

My days have slowed

shrunk to home

My days have slowed

retreated inside me

My days have slowed

to the pace of an earlier age

I have been slowed by the recovery

workload

I have been slowed down in my days

 

They say that the new luxury

is time – attention – slowness

Being in the moment

is the new richness

 


So good

 

Nature isn’t cruel –

it’s honest, there is

some life, some death,

some joy, some love

for all – some procreation,

it’s brutal and honest –

for all.

Humans however are brutal

and cruel and dishonest.

There is some life, some death,

some joy, some love

for all – some procreation,

but they will pretend to be

fake good, do fake good,

while they bring you down,

watch you fall –

and still will deny all.

All the while humans will tell

I am good, trust me,

I’d never do you wrong.

It’s a dog eat dog world,

but I will pray for you.

A human hug feels like death

and their smiles do not touch

their eyes. Show don’t tell, truth.

It stinks with untruth.

Nature tells you when

and where something stinks.

Her stagnant waters stink

like a hidden carcass does.

It’s just their words, right.

They cover up their actions.

They are good like that,

so good at secrets,

covert, they are good at

being camouflaged and cruel.

On Sundays they will pray

for the others, the sinners

in this world and throw money

in the silver collection plate,

a bell signalling distress and danger.

They are so good.



Sara Stegen is a Dutch poet and non-fiction author who writes about land, family, nature, and neurodivergence. Home is a boulder-clay ridge in the northern Netherlands where her bike shed contains 8 bicycles and where she is working on a memoir about apples and autism and her first poetry collection.


 

Kate Venables


London Underground happy


It’s one of those days

when everyone on the Tube

is just – happy.

All the men are beautiful,

the women all are kind,

the buskers all professionals,

and the train guards don’t mind

when you dawdle.

Even the sooty little mice

who live between the rails

make people smile.

And the sun shines

when the line

comes overground.


Kate Venables is a doctor. Her poems and short stories have appeared in magazines such as Lighthouse and The Frogmore Papers and in The Hippocrates Prize Anthology. She is working on a pamphlet.



Kate Young



Unexpected Treasure in ME5

 

Small boy, football at his feet

drinks his father’s pride,

feels the fizz swell his belly.

 

Grass, two weeks post-drought

breathes, an explosion of green

running the park.

 

Gloss-gold coins drop

from chestnut, newly plump.

I pocket some, rub riches.




Gold

 

Today, as every day she is Midas –

slumped on a chrome and bronzed throne

flipping the screen, scrolling for nectar.

 

A request pops into her inbox –

she accepts, messages the man

who has the face and form of a god.

 

He grants a wish, a constant stream

of emoji hearts whenever she posts

on apps with click-and-clack-taps.

 

In return he asks for her soul,

her soft nakedness at his fingertips

to be exposed to the world.

 

She sinks into her flat-white,

tastes the cold dregs and knows

that nothing she touches will turn to gold.



Kate Young’s poetry has been published in journals including Stand, Fly on the Wall, Alchemy Spoon and Poetry Scotland. Fear was placed 2nd in The Canterbury Poet of the Year Competition, 2022. Her pamphlets A Spark in the Darkness and Beyond the School Gate have been published by Hedgehog Press.

Find her on X @Kateyoung12poet or her website kateyoungpoet.co.uk

 



Trisha Broomfield


Allergic to Rich



I wish I’d said yes to Benjamin Shah

I’d be sipping champagne, spooning up caviar

but consistently my heart

rules over my head, I’m stubborn

and sometimes quite easily led.

Money is always my stumbling block

I’m allergic to rich, live life on the knock,

so when bills roll around, building up to knee high,

I recall past times happy and relive with a sigh

that day at the health spa when asked, I said, ‘Nah’,

instead of ‘Yes please’ to Benjamin Shah.


Trisha Broomfield has three pamphlets (published by Dempsey and Windle) and contributed to many anthologies. One of which is this year’s Surrey Poet Laureate anthology to be launched in late November. She also has three poems in the Wildfire Words open submissions 10. Published online.

Her most recent pamphlet, My Acrostic Mother, illustrated by Heather Moulson, is available to order online and at bookstores. All four of her pamphlets are available at the Surrey Poet Laureateship Library in Epsom.

Trisha is poet for the monthly Cranleigh Magazine, the annual Caistorian, and one third of the Booming Lovelies poetry trio. You can see them next on 7th November at GLive Guildford as part of the Winter Wellfest.

 

You can hear Trisha’s poems at Poetry Worth Hearing and BBC Upload.

Instagram @magentapink22 @boominglovelies



Steve Xerri 


Uses of Cartography


 

everything changes. days ride on the slow sine wave

of light-levels, the seasonal cycle of green, gold, rust,

winter's black – when the work of storing & preserving

what has ripened in the sun or fattened in pasture

& forest keeps every body alive through the lean & cold

 

but change becomes upheaval, aimed at the future

like an arrow – the will to unity of possession, the merge

of patches & ribbons of common ground into a single

great block enclosed by one who guides no plough across it,

lends no muscle to maintain clear drainage or set wheatsheaves

drying in stooks, one who racks up rents to price out tenants

& denies a dead man's firstborn the right to his father's plot :

with everything changed nobody may comb the woods

for kindling or gather cobnuts & rosehips from the bushes,

nobody take eel & pike from the local river

 

centuries later we can still read this rewriting of the place,

a view as of birds or angels precisely outlined to order

on thick sheets of vellum : we can imagine the quiet

in a chamber broken only by the whisper of a quill,

the stealthy scrape of a knife, repeatedly scratching out

& resetting dashed borders till the manor has swallowed

a whole village's oxgangs & halts only at the cross-hatched

band where pea rows & barley plots peter out in stony soil

 

everything changes. squares are erased where once stood

dwellings plucked down in the creation of a deerpark,

swineherding paths to woodland forage found blocked

by a new-inked thorn hedge – & the story is told

that the dividers marched across boundaries by the map

maker are followed soon after by strong-arm gangs hired

to slaughter dissenters like wolves passing among sheep

 

once the work is done very little is left unaltered :

a handful of titles inscribed across tracts of colour

replace ancient family names swept from the chart

along with the souls who bore them, tenants now dubbed

hedge-breakers, vagabonds, falling into an uprooted life

of piecemeal work & sleeping in ditches that foreshadow

the grave – & from this bloody birthing into the language

of the term landowner follows a lineage of fencers-out

striding into the present waving their pieces of paper

which, read in the raking light of history, reveal

the marks of true trespass – by the few against the many



Steve Xerri (https://stevexerripoetry.co.uk) was Canterbury Festival Poet of the Year 2017. His work has appeared in numerous print and online magazines, including Atrium, Brittle Star, The Clearing, Fortnightly Review, Golden Handcuffs Review, Ink Sweat and Tears, The Interpreter’s House, One Hand Clapping, The Poetry Shed, Poetry Society Newsletter, Raceme, and Sentinel Literary Quarterly.

 

His first pamphlet Mutter/Land was published in 2020 by Oystercatcher Press.



Terry Jones


Annual Report


The disposal of personal effects

 is ongoing. Some items of clothing

were viewed by close associates

and pieces were selected by them

albeit reluctantly.  The remainder

went to a relevant charity.

 

Toiletries are now largely exhausted

and medical products disposed of.

Numerous small containers,

many already well past their use-by  dates,

were binned. Shoes were placed in a street shoe-bank.

 

Books, the ownership of many of which

had been debated, remain in situ.

 

Bank accounts have been reassigned

to their new owner. The expertise

of the funeral directors was noted

and commended. Clinicians were at all times,

 and continue to be, solicitous.

 

A promising start has been made as far

as can be judged. When we report

at the end of the second year we hope

a clearer picture will emerge, going forward.




IRISH MONEY

 

This poor place is where you all came from

though you did not have the brogue you hear

in these counties. You spoke like us Brits

as I recall it anyway. Was that not so,

Kennedy, Rooney, Docherty and Walsh,

in those ancient days when we were

smelling each others’ farts in chapel?

 

We sailed here from Fleetwood to Larne

on the night ferry for goods lorries,

the logistics trailers, jenga’d with outers

for stacking in Ireland’s hungry shops.

 

Our pilgrimage was westward bent

till we swapped pounds for Euros and

sought the bare birthplace of Colmcille;

a rock altar, repository

for a scatter of cent pieces,

deliquescing now to a copper broth.

 

Flickering swifts performed repeated

crossings over these gifts

like a grace, as if they had usurped

priestly duties in a shrunken diocese.

 

But that is not true, for they are tourists like us

who arrive only to depart.

 

In leaving, I place a foreign coin

upon the plate: votive offering

to Hannon, Dolan, Slattery and Dunn,

blameless fathers of my youth

who fed in me a keen hunger,

that is lettered and cut

into the stone of this rich day.


Terry Jones had a career in Education, working in Careers and Training in schools and colleges. Unemployed school leavers, graduates and post graduates in the Fine Arts and Research Sciences were included in his client groups. Since 2000 he has been active in what one might call ‘Community Poetry’, voluntary associations of people who love and practise poetry. He was chairman of Ver Poets, member of Stanza groups in Enfield and now Reading, ran events and workshops, took part in ‘Open Mics’. He now runs a poetry reading group in the U3A.

 


Helen Overell


November

for AJ


One of these days I shall turn to you

and not find you, even though


but a moment since you were there

at my side talking of letting dust be,


doing the washing up as you go along

and giving the briefest of glimpses

i

nto the inexplicable nature of husbands

whose dear and lovely ways


bring us comfort and surety,

as do the yellow-gold leaves


that flutter and fall around us,

settle one by one on our path —


portals of light between this world,

now, and the unknown other, as yet.


Helen Overell writes:

I have work in several magazines and some of my poems were highly commended

or placed in competitions including the Poetry Society Stanza Competition 2018 and

the Poetry News Members' poems Summer 2020. My first collection Inscapes &

Horizons was published by St Albert's Press in 2008 and my second collection

Thumbprints was published by Oversteps in 2015. A booklet of my poems

Measures for lute was published by The Lute Society in 2020. I take an active role

in Mole Valley Poets, a Poetry Society Stanza group.



John Greening


The five last poems of John Greening’s Cleopatra-Antony

forthcoming in Spring 2027 from Dare-Gale.

 

 



In my cartouche

a lion guards

the triangle,

 

a feather deters

the horned viper

and two hawks

 

complete me

with their cry,

an applauding

 

hand, and lips

trying to smile

as he divorces

 

her and we dance

to the coming battle:

‘Queen of Kings’.

  

 

 

XIV

 

Everything finished, as it began, on water:

peacefully with pearl-fishers at first, then the hortator

 

urging the oarsmen to ram, pitch blazing, skirmishes,

catapult, grapnel, and all of us trapped in the marshes

 

sickening so even my friends desert across the gulf

between Antony and Caesar. I myself

 

arrange for the punishment of one of those I catch:

torn apart by horses while the others watch,

 

good men who were tempted. But what, you ask, of the one

who when he saw she had turned her ships round and was gone

 

(that monster, minion, mallard, goat, wretch, sot,

eunuch, baby with a golden chamber pot)

 

left his men and followed her to the music and flowers

of Alexandria’s harbour, hating the world and its sneers?

 

Everything finished there, yet it was not over quite.

We still found time for one ungodly night.


 

 

    

                                     

 



‘Inimitable livers’?

Not the way we

drank, besides

 

we were partners

in research now:

the Best Methods

 

of Dying, as

Demonstrated on

Certain Prisoners.

 

I hadn’t left him

(Dionysus would)

nor was I dead

 

in the mausoleum,

but camouflaged

by gold. The best

 

method is the one

you do not notice

as it springs –

 

the tresha, horned

viper, asp, Eros

killed him.

 

 

 

 

XV

 

One of her crowns, a spare sceptre, and our children’s teacher

were all sent to negotiate. To grow richer

 

was usually the boy’s one aim, but now he said

kill me and he would pardon her. She tried

 

more subtle gifts but little Caesar would have none.

He wanted Egypt, her gold, her fertile strip, and soon

 

Alexandria learnt that Rome had begun its march

across the desert Antony, who’d have to teach

 

himself a lesson in how to die. Yet before I failed

there would be time enough. We drank and kissed and fooled,

 

until there came that bacchic summons, and the whirling feet

of revellers danced their way towards the city gate.

 

 

 

On Victoria Embankment

 

It stands not far from Charing Cross, beside

the Thames, the obelisk that’s simply known

as Cleopatra’s Needle, while the tide

of empire comes and goes. Its thrusting twin

 

is in New York, and both once stood erect

for Alexandria, to mark the place

where Julius Caesar came. If you expect

a different Mark, he isn’t here, alas:

 

you’d have to go downriver to the Globe

to catch his words, and even those aren’t his,

but she – in stone, on screen, or at the pub

after the show – she’ll be there for your quiz.



John Greening's books include a Selected Poems (The Interpretation of Owls), editions of Arnold, Grigson, Blunden, Iain Crichton Smith, U.A. Fanthorpe — and, just out, William Scammell. A sequel to Contraflow: Lines of Englishness (edited with Kevin Gardner) will be published by Renard, following their edition of his essays, A High Calling. Baylor University Press published his translations of Rilke in 2026 and are about to bring out his next full collection, Crowning. The poems here are from the pamphlet Cleopatra-Antony which is due from Dare-Gale in 2027.

 

 



That's all for Episode 45. Please listen on You Tube or Audible podcasts or follow this link:https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/7IR7ltf5pxOs84DTJh17b7/episode/0AjRr7W2n7TY4clCI2OXE3/wizard

If you have any comments or suggestions please send them to poetryworthhearing@gmail.com. The theme for the next episode is 'intelligence'. This can be artificial, spook related, a quotient or another word for information - whatever you choose. Please send submissions of up to 4 minutes recording of unpublished poems plau texts plus brief author bio to the same address: poetryworthhearing@gmail.com. the deadline is November 18th.

 
 
 

Recent Posts

See All
Poetry Worth Hearing: Episode 44

Episode 44 of Poetry Worth Hearing includes an interview with the poet and translator, Jamie McKendrick as well as a brief reading of his poems. The prompt for the open section of the podcast was wea

 
 
 
Poetry Worth Hearing : Episode 43

This episode will be the last before the summer break. Poetry Worth Hearing will return in September. It is particularly satisfying that this last episode for the season should have had such a strong

 
 
 

Comments


Post: Blog2_Post

©2021 by Poetry Worth Hearing. Proudly created with Wix.com

bottom of page